“What Are Birthing People?” — Brandon Gill GRILLS Dem Witness, Leaves No Room for Evasion in Explosive HearingWASHINGTON, D.C. —
The House Committee on Oversight witnessed one of its most heated exchanges of the year when Rep. Brandon Gill (R-TX) took center stage during a Department of Government Expenditures (DOGE) hearing on Wednesday. What began as a standard inquiry into NIH research grants quickly escalated into a sharp ideological clash — and Gill didn’t blink.
His question?
“What are ‘birthing people’?”
His tone?
Unforgiving.
And the witness — a Democratic-backed academic from a prominent health policy institution — struggled to respond without walking straight into a rhetorical buzzsaw.
A Conservative Enters the Ring
Brandon Gill, a first-term congressman with a reputation for directness and no tolerance for progressive buzzwords, used his time during the hearing to zero in on what he called “ideological drift in taxpayer-funded research.” At the top of his list: grants referring to “birthing people,” “reproductive justice,” and “gender-expansive family care.”
“Can you point to a single NIH-funded study that defines what a ‘birthing person’ is?” Gill asked, flipping through a thick binder of grant abstracts.
The witness — Dr. Helena Ramos, a policy fellow who had helped advise reproductive health programs funded through the NIH and HHS — began to respond with a technical explanation of inclusive language in medical literature.
But Gill cut in.
“Respectfully, I didn’t ask for a language seminar. I asked who exactly you’re referring to when the federal government spends taxpayer dollars on ‘birthing people.’ Is that women, or is it something else?”
The Moment Goes Viral
The tension in the hearing room was immediate — and cameras caught every second. A brief silence followed Dr. Ramos’ attempt to clarify that “birthing people” includes “cisgender women, transgender men, and nonbinary individuals capable of pregnancy.”
Gill leaned forward.
“So just to be clear, you’re saying that science — which you’re defending here — now says men can get pregnant?”
Ramos answered carefully, saying medical science recognizes a broader range of gender identities. But Gill didn’t let go.
“Then let me ask again: how many men gave birth in the NIH’s last reporting cycle?”
The witness did not have the number. The room went quiet.
Flashpoint: The Morehouse Grant
Gill pivoted to another topic that triggered outrage from Democrats — the withdrawal of an NIH grant from Morehouse College, which had been earmarked to study maternal mortality among “Black birthing people.”
“This was a $3.5 million program,” Gill noted, “and the language was so vague and politically charged that even the researchers couldn’t define who the program served without offending someone.”
Democrats called the framing misleading, arguing that the grant addressed serious public health disparities. But Gill stood his ground.
“If you want to fight maternal mortality, say that. But don’t hide behind new terms that no one outside this room even understands.”
The Broader Battle: Ideology vs. Science
Wednesday’s hearing wasn’t just about funding — it was a flashpoint in the larger debate over whether government-sponsored science should also serve cultural agendas.
Gill pushed back on NIH grants that prioritized gender-expansive math programs, transgender-focused pregnancy studies, and DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) compliance in research grant selection.
“We are trillions in debt, inflation is up, the border is open — and this administration is funding math workshops for nonbinary teens? This is how we advance science?”
Ramos defended the funding, insisting that broadening representation strengthens research and that inclusion is essential to addressing disparities.
But Gill wasn’t having it.
“I’m asking for measurable results, not ideological justifications. Because if the federal government is cutting checks, Americans deserve real answers.”
Social Media Lights Up
Within minutes of the exchange, video clips flooded X (formerly Twitter), Instagram, and YouTube.
The hashtag #BirthingPeople trended within an hour.
So did #GillVsRamos and #TaxpayerPushback.
Conservative commentators praised Gill’s performance.
“Brandon Gill just did more in five minutes than some Republicans do in five years,” tweeted a Fox News contributor.
Progressive voices countered, calling Gill’s approach “hostile,” “disrespectful,” and “anti-science.”
But even critics had to acknowledge: Gill had tapped into something deeper — a growing unease among many Americans about how government spending intersects with cultural change.
The Aftershock: A Hearing That Won’t Be Forgotten
By the end of the session, Democrats were visibly frustrated. Republicans were emboldened. And the debate over language, biology, and the role of federal funds in shaping both wasn’t going anywhere.
As for Gill, he walked out of the chamber without looking back.
Later that night, he posted a screenshot of his binder of NIH grant documents with the caption:
“We’re just getting started.”
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