The media mogul cried as she described being unable to think of anything to say when she was asked to give “accolades” about her mom at an event.
Oprah Winfrey tearfully recalled the pain of struggling to praise her mother when she was invited to speak about her at a church event.
The OWN media mogul, 71, opened up about the moment during the Feb. 4 episode of “The Oprah Podcast,” which was devoted to healing from childhood trauma. Over the years, Winfrey has been candid about her complex relationship with her mom, who died in 2018 at age 83.
Winfrey’s guest during the episode was Dr. Bruce D. Perry, a psychiatrist with whom Winfrey co-wrote the 2021 book, “What Happened to You?: Conversations on Trauma, Resilience, and Healing.”
About 17 minutes into the pair’s nearly hour-long conversation, Winfrey shared how she likes to define forgiveness, summarizing it as, “Giving up the hope that the past could be any different.”
Winfrey then recalled the moment where she struggled to speak about her mother, Vernita Lee, in public, and how it sparked a feeling of forgiveness.
“I was being asked to come to speak about my mother at a church,” Winfrey said. “It was important for her to be seen as religious in the community.”
The talk show legend said by that point she’d already become a household name. She was asked to participate in the event “to give all these accolades” about her mother, she explained, while struggling to hold back tears.
“I couldn’t think of one thing,” she said, recalling how she listened to the other speakers share stories about their moms preparing packed lunches for them and performing other nurturing tasks.
“I was like, ‘Oh my God, I don’t have one memory,’” she went on. “And so, when it came time for me to speak, I thought, ‘Well what do I actually have to be grateful for?’”
“She didn’t abort me,” Winfrey said. “She did the best that she knew.”
Still, Winfrey continued, “The best that she knew was not enough to feed what I needed, was not enough to make me feel whole, was not enough to make me feel valued or seen or important to her.
“It was not. But it was the best that she could do, and I gave up the hope that it could have been anything other than what she had,” she said.
Lee gave birth to Winfrey, her oldest child, as a teenager in 1954 in Mississippi.
Lee worked as a housekeeper throughout her life and relied on her own mom to raise Winfrey for several years.
The mother of four later gave up a daughter for adoption, something Winfrey learned of when she was an adult.
Winfrey recalled her final conversation with Lee during an emotional interview with People conducted shortly after Lee’s death in 2018.
After receiving a call from her sister letting her know that their mother’s condition was declining, Winfrey, who was scheduled to help Michelle Obama launch her book “Becoming” in Chicago, got on a plane to surprise her mom in Milwaukee.
She spent a day with Lee and then flew back to Chicago for the launch. Afterward, she flew back to see her mom again before dashing off for a speaking engagement in Boston.
After getting the urge to speak to her mom again, Winfrey decided to cancel several meetings and return to Milwaukee one final time.
“I felt like I knew it was the end, but I wanted to make sure she knew it was the end, and that I said everything I wanted to say,” Winfrey said.
When it came time to bare her heart to Lee, Winfrey told People, she prayed to find the words she wanted to say. In the end, she simply told her mother she knew she did her best.
“What I said was, ‘Thank you. Thank you, because I know it’s been hard for you,’” Winfrey recalled. “It was hard for you as a young girl having a baby, in Mississippi. No education. No training. No skills. Seventeen, you get pregnant with this baby. Lots of people would have told you to give that baby away. Lots of people would’ve told you to abort that baby. You didn’t do that.
“I want you to know that no matter what, I know that you always did the best you knew how to do. And look how it turned out,” she added.
Winfrey also recalled telling Lee, “You should go in peace.”
“In that moment, my sister was in the room. My mother’s had real problems since my sister came back from the adoption. My sister said, ‘Please forgive yourself, because I’ve forgiven you for giving me away,’” Winfrey recalled.
“It was just really sacred and beautiful,” she added. “I would say to anybody — and if you live long enough, everybody goes through it — say the things that you need to say while the people are still alive, so that you are not one of those people living with regret about what you would’ve, should’ve, could’ve said.”
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