Editor’s note: Caitlyn Jenner publicly transitioned in 2015, but in this interview, Kourtney and Khloé refer to her by her deadname and use her old pronouns. Caitlyn has previously said that she is comfortable with her children doing this, especially when they are talking about their memories of her pre-transition. 

Kourtney Kardashian Barker has revealed that she found Caitlyn Jenner so “controlling and bossy” as a stepparent that she ended up moving out of the family home to live with her dad, Robert Kardashian, as a teenager.

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Kourtney opened up during a recent appearance on her sister Khloé Kardashian’s podcast, Khloé In Wonder Land, and Khloé was shocked to hear that her older sister had such a wildly different experience of Caitlyn than she did.

But first, some context. The Kardashian siblings are the children of Kris Jenner and Robert Kardashian, who married in 1978. They split in 1989, and their divorce was finalized in 1991.

Kris first met Caitlyn on a blind date in 1990, and they married in 1991 — shortly after Kris’s divorce was finalized. Kourtney was around 11 years old when Caitlyn first entered her life, Khloé was around six, their sister Kim Kardashian would have been 10, and their brother, Rob Kardashian, three.

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Kris and Caitlyn went on to have two daughters together, Kendall and Kylie Jenner.

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And Kourtney feels that she bore the brunt of how difficult Caitlyn was as a stepparent because she is the oldest, with the topic coming up as she discussed her own role as a stepparent to her husband Travis Barker’s kids.

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For reference, Kourtney is stepmom to 21-year-old Landon and 19-year-old Alabama, as well as Travis’s stepdaughter from his previous marriage, 26-year-old Atiana De La Hoya.

Speaking to her sister, Kourt explained that she enjoys not being responsible for disciplining Travis’s children, explaining: “If a teenager does something that teenagers do, I’m not the role that has to make it a big deal.”

Khloé praised Kourtney for knowing that her role with her stepkids isn’t to be a disciplinarian, adding that this was something she felt that Caitlyn “did so well” with them, saying: “[Caitlyn] never tried to be dad, and I always appreciated and respected that.”

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Kourtney was noticeably shocked by this, and replied: “OK, so that wasn’t my experience, but maybe that’s why it became your experience… So [I’m] grateful for that for you.”

“Really, he tried to be dad for you?” Khloé asked, and Kourt said that Caitlyn “tried to be controlling and bossy” and would tell her “certain friends can’t come over.”

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Khloé wondered if this experience helped mold Kourtney into the stepparent that she is today, but Kourt attributed it more to their dad’s partner Denise.

“Denise was our dad’s fiancée for five years,” Khloé told listeners. “We loved her, we still love her.”

“I love her and I still have a relationship with her,” Kourtney agreed. “And I think about what an amazing example she was to all of us. She taught us so much about being young ladies at the time.”

“I think having that really positive experience with Denise really helped me, too,” she concluded.

“Is that why you didn’t connect with Bruce?” Khloé asked, and Kourtney replied: “Well, yeah.”

“I just thought you didn’t like him because he was replacing dad,” Khloé admitted. “Not that he did, no one could replace dad.”

“So weird that you had such a different experience,” Kourtney mused. “I think it’s because you were younger.”

“Maybe mom had a talk with him, maybe your [rejection] taught him something,” Khloé theorized. “Maybe it was a lesson for everyone.”

“Oh, yeah, I’d be like: ‘I wanna call my dad!’ and then he’d, like, hang up the phone,” Kourtney recalled. “We’d have yelling wars.”

“That is not my experience at all,” Khloé replied, still stunned. “That’s crazy… See, you can live in the same house, be raised by the same parents, and not even know — and have totally different experiences. I’m sorry you went through that.”

“Thank you, it was fine,” Kourtney replied before revealing: “That’s why I moved into dad’s.”

Kourtney has previously been open about moving in with Rob when she was 16, with Kim following suit at the same age.

Rob tragically died from esophageal cancer in July 2003. Kourtney was 24 years old, Kim 22, Khloe 19, and Rob Jr. 16 at the time.

Meanwhile, Kris and Caitlyn announced their separation in October 2013, and Caitlyn publicly came out as transgender in April 2015.

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